Submitted by 1947Geoff on 3 December, 2011 - 12:26.
Was there when the GR1's entered service at Wittering in '69 by flying in and putting on a display for the servicemen and all the families. Gobsmacking to say the least - it seemed to make nonsense of the theory of flight! My wife even fell in love with it and would never turn down the opportunity to watch it perform.
Stayed with the Harrier force working on the simulator for the next 15 years both in the UK & Germany so actually learned to 'fly' it although was never able to take the opportunity to fly in the T4. Only managed JP4's and Hawks for actual flights.
Truly shocked that the entire force was scrapped, there is nothing that can match it flying today, and read that those mothballed are to be sold to the US but only to be stripped of components for spares. A travesty.
Interested to hear you worked in the sim geoff - we are based in the old sim building at what used to be RAF Binbrook and one of our buildings is a 'tower' where the moving map was located.
I know it's all cgi now but we would love to have some info, pics and if possible video about how the old sim systems worked.
Submitted by lmgaylard on 2 September, 2011 - 14:15.
as one of the comments mentions the 30th anniversary of the falklands, would be typical if the raf took the limelight with the vulcan on display.....vulcan made very little impact in the war despite what the raf 'bullshit' machine says.....it only took part cos the buccaneer didnt hold enough engine oil...fact.
In my opinion the harrier has been one of the best aircraft we have produced. Will be missed. Also am gutted for all enthusiasts who will never see them at airshows again
Submitted by lmgaylard on 4 January, 2011 - 13:45.
i first saw the sea harrier fly at yeovilton in about 1980, i was amazed that a plane could fly so fast then stop in mid air!!!
i was at yeovilton when 800 naval air squadron came in for the last time, very sad. its like part of my childhood has gone with there retirement!!!
really cant understand why weve kept tornado and not the harrier, whatever argument you have for tornado,harrier comes out as the better plane apart from speed and endurance. ask the soldiers on the ground in afghanistan which they would prefer and i bet thay would say the harrier. enough said!!!!!!
Submitted by airshows 1to1 on 17 December, 2010 - 04:18.
The Harrier is our greatest close support asset, all I can say is why ???
The fact that the Harrier is VSTOL and RAF an RN capable makes it the most versatile and wanted aircraft in the world. It may not be stealthy, it cannot fly supersonic, but it is still on the 'wish list' of some countries ...
We have interests all round the world and need to defend them, the Americans would love us to deplete our military assets so they are top-dog in Europe, Asia and the Far East - we will be handing them that on a plate with the retirement of The Harrier and the ships that carry them ...
So sad the conservitives still keep getting everthing wrong about defence and selling out to the American aircraft industry for out airforce, hope everybody that voted for David cameron will try to remember all this at the next election, Margaret Thatcher is not gone yet. I hope they mothball the Harrier's for a while just in case???.
Submitted by John Robinson on 17 December, 2010 - 02:24.
It may not be the end of the Harriers just yet. Word is that 16 will be kept for the reservists, similar in the way the americans have reservists.
Hope its true
Submitted by KEVIN SMITH on 16 December, 2010 - 23:36.
ANOTHER BRITISH ICON SENT TO THE SCRAP HEAP ...WHAT NEXT I WONDER . ITS OK FOR THE BIG WIGS TO SIT ON THERE FAT ARSES ..SCRAP OUR AIRCRAFT AND CLOSE OUR FRONT LINE BASES BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR HERITAGE .THE THREE FORCES ARE ONE OF THE REASON THAT WE BECOME SO GREAT ..WE SOON WON,T HAVE THE MEANS TO PROTECT OUR SELVES..SOON AIR SHOWS WILL BE CANCELLED ..ALL THIS FOR THE SAKE OF SAVING MONEY .....POLITICIANS GIVE YOURSELVES A PAY CUT AND STOP SCREWING THE COUNTRY WITH ALL YOUR FALSE CLAIMS FOR SECOND HOMES ETC ..THEN SEE HOW MUCH THAT SAVES US ...
Submitted by benjiboy on 16 December, 2010 - 22:15.
Seems amazing that governments scrap aircraft like the harrier, the vulcan, concord, etc, that are still in many ways more advanced than the aircraft of today and possibly tommorrow.
Submitted by philip44barker on 16 December, 2010 - 22:12.
Sad day yesterday at Cottesmore ,the weather came out in sympathy too
Reminded me a bit of the last lightning display at Binbrook as the display
Was dumbed down due to the weather,not proud at all to be British,feel for the armed services
What next... No Nimrod No Harriers No AirSea Rescue No Coastguard .... Condems Mr Cameron & Co
You should be ashamed your short term cuts and savings will come
Back and bite you in the arse VERY HARD.. Read the history books
Must be the right time for Argentina to have another try !!! N
It's really sad for scrapping such a fine aircraft.The beauty of this aircraft is the ability for vertical take off and bowing to audience in the air during display. Really sad.
Submitted by Aquariusrising on 16 December, 2010 - 13:27.
A little shortsighted on part of M.O.D.?
Seems much more of a versatile and strategic option, compared to the Typhoon given the strange and perverse conflicts Mr Bush and Mr Blair's oil requirements have dragged us into.
Submitted by Danny Boxall on 16 December, 2010 - 02:57.
great plane ,great memories my favourite being practice day at biggin hill with the sea harrier ,about 200 watching ,,it was like your own personal display .will be missed by fans and military personal ,the con-dems have the right name nearly as bad as the last load of crap .
A sad,sad day what has happened to this great country of ours,Carriers with no planes scrapping of one of the finest aircraft we ever made just to save a few miserable quid which wil be squandered anyway on useless aid to countrys that just laugh at us. David Cameron hang your head in shame and please God we wont be caught with our trousers down if ever we find ourselves under attack. History my friend always repeats itself.
Submitted by kelsh003 on 16 December, 2010 - 10:56.
Well said my friend, well said, i saw a harrier at RIAT this year, i did not know, that that would be the last time i ever saw a harrier in the air, R.I.P. Hawker Siddeley Harrier
Watched the last operational flight today on News24, I am so glad I saw the Harrier display at Wings & Wheel 2010 , It was an exciting aircraft.
What a loss.it will be greatly missed.
Comments
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Was there when the GR1's entered service at Wittering in '69 by flying in and putting on a display for the servicemen and all the families. Gobsmacking to say the least - it seemed to make nonsense of the theory of flight! My wife even fell in love with it and would never turn down the opportunity to watch it perform.
Stayed with the Harrier force working on the simulator for the next 15 years both in the UK & Germany so actually learned to 'fly' it although was never able to take the opportunity to fly in the T4. Only managed JP4's and Hawks for actual flights.
Truly shocked that the entire force was scrapped, there is nothing that can match it flying today, and read that those mothballed are to be sold to the US but only to be stripped of components for spares. A travesty.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Interested to hear you worked in the sim geoff - we are based in the old sim building at what used to be RAF Binbrook and one of our buildings is a 'tower' where the moving map was located.
I know it's all cgi now but we would love to have some info, pics and if possible video about how the old sim systems worked.
regards
Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell Marketing Director PlanesTV.com
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
as one of the comments mentions the 30th anniversary of the falklands, would be typical if the raf took the limelight with the vulcan on display.....vulcan made very little impact in the war despite what the raf 'bullshit' machine says.....it only took part cos the buccaneer didnt hold enough engine oil...fact.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
In my opinion the harrier has been one of the best aircraft we have produced. Will be missed. Also am gutted for all enthusiasts who will never see them at airshows again
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
i first saw the sea harrier fly at yeovilton in about 1980, i was amazed that a plane could fly so fast then stop in mid air!!!
i was at yeovilton when 800 naval air squadron came in for the last time, very sad. its like part of my childhood has gone with there retirement!!!
really cant understand why weve kept tornado and not the harrier, whatever argument you have for tornado,harrier comes out as the better plane apart from speed and endurance. ask the soldiers on the ground in afghanistan which they would prefer and i bet thay would say the harrier. enough said!!!!!!
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
now heres a formation idea to comemerate the falklands.a harrier and vulcan.xh558
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
wat if the argentinians try to invade the falklands wat then
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Worked on them in the 70s.What a shame to see them go.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
yes i also worked on them for 30 years sad day
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
The Harrier is our greatest close support asset, all I can say is why ???
The fact that the Harrier is VSTOL and RAF an RN capable makes it the most versatile and wanted aircraft in the world. It may not be stealthy, it cannot fly supersonic, but it is still on the 'wish list' of some countries ...
We have interests all round the world and need to defend them, the Americans would love us to deplete our military assets so they are top-dog in Europe, Asia and the Far East - we will be handing them that on a plate with the retirement of The Harrier and the ships that carry them ...
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
So sad the conservitives still keep getting everthing wrong about defence and selling out to the American aircraft industry for out airforce, hope everybody that voted for David cameron will try to remember all this at the next election, Margaret Thatcher is not gone yet. I hope they mothball the Harrier's for a while just in case???.
pwkelly
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
It may not be the end of the Harriers just yet. Word is that 16 will be kept for the reservists, similar in the way the americans have reservists.
Hope its true
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
ANOTHER BRITISH ICON SENT TO THE SCRAP HEAP ...WHAT NEXT I WONDER . ITS OK FOR THE BIG WIGS TO SIT ON THERE FAT ARSES ..SCRAP OUR AIRCRAFT AND CLOSE OUR FRONT LINE BASES BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR HERITAGE .THE THREE FORCES ARE ONE OF THE REASON THAT WE BECOME SO GREAT ..WE SOON WON,T HAVE THE MEANS TO PROTECT OUR SELVES..SOON AIR SHOWS WILL BE CANCELLED ..ALL THIS FOR THE SAKE OF SAVING MONEY .....POLITICIANS GIVE YOURSELVES A PAY CUT AND STOP SCREWING THE COUNTRY WITH ALL YOUR FALSE CLAIMS FOR SECOND HOMES ETC ..THEN SEE HOW MUCH THAT SAVES US ...
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Seems amazing that governments scrap aircraft like the harrier, the vulcan, concord, etc, that are still in many ways more advanced than the aircraft of today and possibly tommorrow.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Sad day yesterday at Cottesmore ,the weather came out in sympathy too
Reminded me a bit of the last lightning display at Binbrook as the display
Was dumbed down due to the weather,not proud at all to be British,feel for the armed services
What next... No Nimrod No Harriers No AirSea Rescue No Coastguard .... Condems Mr Cameron & Co
You should be ashamed your short term cuts and savings will come
Back and bite you in the arse VERY HARD.. Read the history books
Must be the right time for Argentina to have another try !!! N
Philip j Barker
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
It's really sad for scrapping such a fine aircraft.The beauty of this aircraft is the ability for vertical take off and bowing to audience in the air during display. Really sad.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Lets hope that they will at least keep one operational for future public airshows
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
A little shortsighted on part of M.O.D.?
Seems much more of a versatile and strategic option, compared to the Typhoon given the strange and perverse conflicts Mr Bush and Mr Blair's oil requirements have dragged us into.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
great plane ,great memories my favourite being practice day at biggin hill with the sea harrier ,about 200 watching ,,it was like your own personal display .will be missed by fans and military personal ,the con-dems have the right name nearly as bad as the last load of crap .
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
A sad,sad day what has happened to this great country of ours,Carriers with no planes scrapping of one of the finest aircraft we ever made just to save a few miserable quid which wil be squandered anyway on useless aid to countrys that just laugh at us. David Cameron hang your head in shame and please God we wont be caught with our trousers down if ever we find ourselves under attack. History my friend always repeats itself.
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Well said my friend, well said, i saw a harrier at RIAT this year, i did not know, that that would be the last time i ever saw a harrier in the air, R.I.P. Hawker Siddeley Harrier
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
Watched the last operational flight today on News24, I am so glad I saw the Harrier display at Wings & Wheel 2010 , It was an exciting aircraft.
What a loss.it will be greatly missed.
gerry mold
Re: RAF Harrier 1960-2010
it's a sad day for all us Harrier fans, what a great plane.